Episode 81

Economics is a social science that doesn't reflect our current society - economist Hans Stegeman

Published on: 29th July, 2025

Financial stability and economic growth has been a staple of national prosperity and business success. In this search for predictable prosperity, fueled by individual ownership and material attainment, we forget that economic models were built as a fix to a problem within the specific context of a social need. Today, economic models have become the convention our society moves within, and the narrative of perpetual growth is familiar. But are these models serving society in the context we now live in, one that requires constraint? To explore these frameworks that rule our lives, we’re joined by economist Hans Stegeman, who, in his double life as Chief Economist at Triodos Bank in the Netherlands by day, and independent thinking columnist by night, shows how provocative questions that help us re-perceive existing systems can influence change from inside the system.

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Fresh perspectives on familiar topics.
Exploring fresh takes on familiar business topics. Featuring conversations with original thinkers from a wide range of fields. Hosted by futurist and strategist Jo Lepore.

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Joanna Lepore is a global foresight strategist.